Blood? *update* pics!!!!

[xxchelle]

this is bordering on animal abuse... having her in this condition for over a month,

LOL, i thought we were already at that point

Trying to be as blunt as I can without hurting feelings... but really, this poor rat is NOT receiving proper care.

 

[emerson]

Catie, she will die, and very soon if she does not get treatment ASAP. Rats are VERY stoic, meaning they don't show ANY signs of being in pain or discomfort until it is extreme pain, or too late. Just because she doesn't seem to be in any pain, I guarantee you that she is probably in GREAT pain. You don't bleed that much, for that long, from inside of you and not be in pain. Call every vet in town and tell them you are young and do not have a job, and your family is not well off but you want to do the responsible thing gor your pet rat and are wondering if them and yourp arents could work out a payment plan where you pay a little over time, til it is paid off. Catie ,she will die, please understand that. I know you are probably very afraid and it's hard when you have to rely on your parents but this is a living breathing creature that I know you love very much. So if your parents cannot afford a vet, that is understandable, and this is not theirs or your fault but the responsible thing and the most selfless, loving thing you can do for Stella if the vet and treatment is not an option is so give her to a local rescue. I can even help you find one. I am not here to judge you sweetie, I know you love your rat very, very much and you are probably very afraid but you have to be strong and put Stella first. If seeing a vet is not possible, and you make the mature, selfless, responsible decision of giving Stella to a rescue, you will be a hero to her, you will be saving her life, even though it will probably be the hardest thing for you to do. Please, please realize that she is in urgent need of vet care. Rats don't show that they are in pain til it is extreme or often too late. Just because she seems fine, she isn't. Vaginal bleeding, and bleeding from everywhere else is not a little concern, it is a huge one. Like I said, I am not here to judge you hun, I just want to help because I know you are in a scary situation right now and these are hard decisions to make when you are a little girl. I know you love your rat, but be strong and do what it best for her. PM me if you need to talk, or anything please okay. Please think about what I have said here. :heart: :hugs:

 

[melon_mayhem]

Look catie, you asked us for advice and you have gotten a lot of it. If you really love Stella then you will do whats best for her. She has been suffering for a month now!!! That is infuriating. And I'm sure that I'm not the only one who feels that way...So heres the bottom line take her to the vet or give her to someone who can. What else can we tell you? So maybe this was a little harsh but you need to look at the reality of the situation. Think of wats really best for Stella not for u....

 

[Big Ears]

We posted something on Craigslist for Baytril. I'm still searching for a good vet, and will find one soon. We talked to a few, and she may have to be put down. :cry3:

 

[emerson]

Have you considered giving her to a rescue as opposed to putting her down? Please think on everything I said in my last post to you. This is just cruel. How can it take this long to find a good vet? How many vets are there in your city? Where do you live???

 

[xxchelle]

It should NOT be taking this long! If you sat down on Google, and Googled all the vets in the area, then called down the list one by one, finding a good vet with decent prices, it should maybe take a couple hours.

I hate to be the one to say this, but if she needs to be put down because her problem has gotten too bad... well, who's fault is that for not taking her to a vet sooner, when we all told you to?

If you don't find a vet in the next day, I would STRONGLY SUGGEST giving her up to a shelter, or someone who can care for her properly, because you clearly can't.

 

[SQ]

Advertising for baytril online is not a solution.
She needs to go to a vet now!
If not for treatment then to be put to sleep. How much longer is she going to have to suffer?
Find a vet or find a rescue in your area that will take her and get her the proper vet care that she needs.

 

[emerson]

I agree with xxChelle. This is just so cruel, and honey, think about it, if she passes away from this, you are going to have to live your entire life knowing you could have saved her and did not make the right choice.

I just don't understand why parents get their children pets if they are not willing to bring them to the vet and give thme proper care, or if they cannot afford to do so.

 

[mikey]

hey listen kid, if you don't deal with this problem then you should really ask your mamma to get you stuffed animals insead of real lives...so stop lying, or do something about it


don't post bogus garbage...we do not appreciate it as we all want to help...enough is enough

 

[Tarah]

So what's the deal with Stella? Have you found a vet? Will you be bringing her to a shelter? To get put down? You need to make a decision and get her help now! Poor Stella depends on you, and looks to you for her well-being and you're letting her suffer.
Are you showing your parents this thread? I would assume if they seen this then they would be more serious about getting that poor rat out of her misery. Which makes me believe they haven't even seen it.
Caitie you need to do something with her, this is animal abuse. You pet is suffering horrendously and you are not doing anything about it. Give her to a shelter! Put her to sleep!

Do something. And nothing that involves lying.

 

[Big Ears]

No, she has not been to the vet. She will not die from it, you have my word. We will recieve Baytril soon, and nurse it to her and into her mouth.

I really don't want help anymore. :locked:

 

[Moon]

So you'll be getting baytril, but without a vet? You are going to suspend and dose it yourself? Do you have a weigh scale that can get an accurate weight from her? Do you know where to find dosing information?

 

[minnow]

Having had three of my rats die even with aggressive vet care after having vaginal bleeding, I can assure you that your word won't keep her from dying. Getting her to a vet may at least ease her suffering, though.

 

[xxchelle]

How do you know she will not die from it, if you haven't even gotten it diagnosed? You said yourself that you talked to a couple vets, and one said she might have to be put down. So how do you know she will not die, if a vet suggested euthanasia?

Where are you getting the Bayril from? Do you know how to properly dose it?

 

[Tarah]

Are you a vet? No. You are not. You cannot give anyone your word that Stella will live or die. My advice to you would be give Stella to a shelter or another member in your area where she can recieve proper care. Not somewhere where she is going to suffer and not get the care she needs. How could you hear a vet say she might have to be euthanized, and turn around and say she'll live?

You do not know that Stella will live, you word means nothing.
At least make a half-decent decision for her.

 

[fenshae]

:hithorse:

 

[LA]

You come on here asking for help, we give it and you don't like what you hear. Well that's just too bad.

Constant bleeding in anyone whether it be pet or human is NOT good. Obviously something is wrong. She needs I correct diagnosis. Make sure you understand what you are doing and like everyone else has said no the concentration, dosage, weight etc etc etc before you even give her a drop of baytril. Overdosing can be dangerous.

 

[Pink]

Under dosing can be just as dangerous, as it provides a false sense of security and results in antibiotic resistant bacteria.

Without a vets advice you do not know if baytril is the correct antibiotic or treatment to be used in Stella's case. If you refuse vet treatment you are completely responsible for her early death. Please, take her to a rescue.

Pink

 

[xxchelle]

Without a vets advice you do not know if baytril is the correct antibiotic or treatment to be used in Stella's case. If you refuse vet treatment you are completely responsible for her early death. Please, take her to a rescue.

Big Ears, weather you reply or not, which I assume you won't, I really hope you're reading what Pink wrote, and reconsidering taking Stella to a vet.

 

[melon_mayhem]

Okay i did some googling just to prove to little miss catie that a vet that can at the very least give better medication for the condition should be found....

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Pet-Rats-3537/2009/1/oder-female-rat-bleeding-1.htm(the condition on this website sounds a bit like yours but maybe a more experienced rat person can say whether im right or not...)

but my older female is now bleeding. I just noticed some spots in her cage yesterday. Is there a way I can tell whether it is Myco or a UTI? I believe she is bleeding from her vagina. There is blood on it and her urethra looks pretty clean.

Its probably myco if you dont notice a horrible smell or see discharge, which is good, because you do not want pyometra and that is just what you would see if that were the case.

A few things it could be: Mycoplamosis infection of the female reproductive organs, or possibly even polycystic ovaries. Is she losing hair anywhere or thinning hair anywhere?

Since this sounds mild, my bet is on the myco. I would go ahead with the baytril and metacam in case there is some inflammation going on down there. Twice a day for the baytril and every 12 hrs for metacam.
When treating all myco related infections, it should be treated for 21 to 30 days. 30 days plus is now being suggested by exotic vets with some vets treating it for 6 weeks when dealing with respiratory issues since relapse is so common and usually with each new attack, damage is done to the lungs such as scarring and blistering etc...

Its fine you want to stick with your vet. I had a vet years back that would listen to my suggestions, check on the internet to see if I was on the mark, prescribe the proper medications, and would chalk one up due to the fact he learned something new about rat care that he would now always know about and be able to treat next time a rat came in with the same symptoms etc... this is how I actually got started as a rat care consultant, by having vets like him work with me. However, he had enough respect for the rat and their owner to decline to do invasive surgery such as spaying and even neutering, but he would remove tumors if they were mammary in nature and would sedate them to clip teeth etc...he even did a full extraction on two of my rats teeth once. He always sent more complicated cases to the specialists though which I respect about Vets that do this rather than them try to do it own their own, using our rats as a practice animal, and more often than not, the outcome was a disaster!

If this should become complicated and you do want to see a specialist

I hope you took the time to read this. Like stated above several times you asked for help and you may not have like the answers but thats just how it goes sometimes.
Even if this possible condition isn't what your rat has i would hope that you take the end of this quote from the website into consideration (the part about speaking with a family vet if you cannot find ANY vets that specialize in rats, even though its not hard. All you have to do is open the phone book and call some of the vets in there asking if they will treat rats...)