US preacher warns end of the world is nigh: 21 May, around 6

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A man behind in line at the grocery store today was buying all lobster for his family's last dinner and saying goodbye to the cashier. Also, at least one of the news reports I read said that Camping claimed the rapture would occur around 6 no matter where you were in the world. Convenient, that. I hope they finish their lobster dinner early.
 
From: CNNMoney.com

Doomsday church: Still open for business

By now, you've probably heard of the religious group that's predicting the end of the world starts this weekend.

Harold Camping and his devoted followers claim a massive earthquake will mark the second coming of Jesus, or so-called Judgment Day on Saturday, May 21, ushering in a five month period of catastrophes before the world comes to a complete end in October.

At the center of it all, Camping's organization, Family Radio, is perfectly happy to take your money -- and in fact, received $80 million in contributions between 2005 and 2009. Camping founded Family Radio, a nonprofit Christian radio network based in Oakland, Calif. with about 65 stations across the country, in 1958.

But not even all of his own employees are convinced that the world is ending on Saturday.

In fact, many still plan on showing up at work on Monday.

"I don't believe in any of this stuff that's going on, and I plan on being here next week," a receptionist at their Oakland headquarters told CNNMoney.

A program producer in Illinois told us, "We're going to continue doing what we're doing."

According to their most recent IRS filings, Family Radio is almost entirely funded by donations, and brought in $18 million in contributions in 2009 alone.

According to those financial documents, accountants put the total worth of Family Radio (referred to as Family Stations on its official forms) at $72 million.

With those kind of financials -- and controversial beliefs -- it's no wonder skeptics have accused the group of running a scam.

Camping first inaccurately predicted the world would end in 1994. Even so, he has gathered even more followers -- some who have given up their homes, entire life savings and their jobs because they believe the world is ending.

Esther, the receptionist in the Oakland office, said some of her most extreme coworkers have recently driven up in fancy cars or taken their families on nice vacations as a last hurrah.

But overall, she estimates about 80% of her coworkers don't even agree with Camping's May 21 forecast. She has stuck to her work as usual, booking appointments and filling up calendars for her coworkers well beyond the May 21 date.

Meanwhile, some employees are questioning the meaning of Harold Camping's goodbye letter sent to the Family Radio mailing list last week. While he says farewell, he encourages employees to "steadfastly continue to stand with us to proclaim the Gospel through Family Radio."

Could that mean he plans on disappearing, but the company should still go about its business as usual?

The producer in Illinois said, "We're trying to guess what it means for the company. Our producers have programs done through the end of the month, so we're not looking at that having any effect on the work."

Also curious is why Family Radio requested an extension to file their nonprofit paperwork. The group is required to submit financial documents in many of the states where they solicit donations, and in Minnesota they requested an extension from their July 15 deadline to November 15.

July 15th was already well past their Judgment Day prediction -- when they say believers will ascend to heaven -- so why bother requesting an extension to November?

But Family Radio's financial filings otherwise look hardly unusual for a religious nonprofit.

"At first glance, it looks like they have a lot of assets, but they actually don't have a lot of cash that they're stockpiling," said Laurie Styron, analyst with the American Institute of Philanthropy.

Most of the group's net worth is tied up in FCC broadcasting licenses, valued at $56 million. Family Radio claimed it held only $1.5 million in cash on its books at the end of 2009.

The paperwork shows Camping has so far, never taken a penny for his own salary, but Family Radio has plenty of other paid employees.

The nonprofit employed about 350 people and paid them a collective $8.3 million -- or roughly $23,000 per person -- in 2009.

What the 2009 IRS filings don't show, is how the organization's donations and expenses may have changed during 2010 and leading up to the May 21 Judgment Day prediction.

In the last few months, Family Radio billboards have popped up across the country. And the group purchased RVs to drive around the country on its evangelizing missions.

Those expenses could have changed their financial picture, but since Family Radio doesn't have to turn in their next IRS filing until November, it may not even matter.

"If people donating to this group think the world is ending on Saturday, then I'm not sure that they care," Styron said.
 
@KMG: I will firmly hold onto my last shred of hope for humanity, give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that they won't fall for it a third time LOL! I will seriously go crazy if people believe this man a third time! :emb: :laugh4:
 
I'm jealous of the "Eternal Earthbound Pets" guy. 250 clients!! That's over $30,000 bucks! Why, oh why, do I not have entrepreneurial spirit like that??? :emb:
 
ruthlessbliss said:
Also, at least one of the news reports I read said that Camping claimed the rapture would occur around 6 no matter where you were in the world. Convenient, that. I hope they finish their lobster dinner early.
Ahahahaha, at work, someone was asking "hey, what time is the world going to end tomorrow?" and I said "6 o'clock!" and then someone else was like "what time zone?" and then when I was stumped, joked "in every timezone!"

But now that I think about it, it makes some sense. It would be like a wave travelling around the world...at a pace determined by man-made, arbitrary, imaginary lines.
 
Its 8:38PM Eastern Standard Time on May 21, 2011 and.... uh.... brace yourself.... OMG.....THE WORLD IS STILL HERE!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUMMER to those who forked out money to save their pets.... and to the Entrepreneurial Spirit who will now be facing massive lawsuits for scamming people. Man... must be TOUGH!

I had a feeling that God would not be selecting such an individual to announce the end of the World. Perhaps Mr. Camping should pack his bags and go "camping." Perhaps a trip to Mount Sinai or Carmel where he can honestly assess his life and its direction... or lack thereof. :bunnydance:
 
purinpurin said:
@KMG: I will firmly hold onto my last shred of hope for humanity, give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that they won't fall for it a third time LOL! I will seriously go crazy if people believe this man a third time! :emb: :laugh4:

Of course they'll fall for it a third time - and then a fourth time and a fifth too. Some people will never learn. They're so desperate to be part of the "chosen" few. Just watch - many of the people who fell for this scam will fall over themselves in the race to fall for the next one.

On a brighter note, Harold Camping is 89. He may not be around long enough to delude people a third time.
 
Well, lookie here... We're still alive! :redhot: And here I thought I could go raid IKEA today for some cheap furniture. I'm still waiting for Mister Camping's explanation! :rant:

:giggle:
 
daisylynn said:
Well, it's 11:12am May 22. I don't think the world ended. I'm still here. ;)

No Daisylynn... you're not here.... this is all a dream!!!!! :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Sorry... bad humor. Must have overdone it with the stroganoff.... :bunnydance:
 
Roo said:
It totally wasn't a scam. They're covered for 10 years! There's still time :thumbup:

How are they covered for 10 years?

I've been reading some of the comments made by Camping's followers after his latest inaccurate rapture projection. Many of them still believe the rapture is imminent and one man, who drove his family 5000 km to California to camp outside Camping's gate, said he was disappointed the rapture didn't happen. Others suggest that this "delay" in the end of the world is just a misunderstanding of God's message and a sign that they should persevere in their faith. Obviously, there are far too many people in this world willing to put logic and common sense aside when it conflicts with what they want to believe. This is one of the surest signs that we'll be subjected to more hysteria in the future. :roll:
 
Oh, I see. :D I meant that Harold Camping's end-of-the-world claims were a scam - designed to fleece money from the gullible. I don't have a problem with Eternal Earthbound Pets or their conditions. If people choose to invest in post-rapture protection for those left behind, I guess that's their business. :wink:
 
jennifervb said:
daisylynn said:
Well, it's 11:12am May 22. I don't think the world ended. I'm still here. ;)

No Daisylynn... you're not here.... this is all a dream!!!!! :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Sorry... bad humor. Must have overdone it with the stroganoff.... :bunnydance:

If this is a dream, I want my money back! I want Orlando Bloom and the dude that plays "Dr.Reid" on "criminal minds" to be part of my dreams. :wink2:
Nope. No bad humor. Great humor. Humor I wanted when responding to this thread. :)
 
I meant that Harold Camping's end-of-the-world claims were a scam - designed to fleece money from the gullible.

Ahhh I misread then, my apologies. I think people that gullible deserve it. Not enough that I think it should happen, I'm just not going to feel bad for them when it does. :giggle:
 
I guess God had a previous engagement for May 21st and couldn't make it for the rapture. Harold Camping says it's now been rescheduled for October 21st. Good times ahead! :lol:


From: CTV.ca

Apocalypse pushed back to Oct. 21, preacher says

Oops, he did it again.

A Christian radio host who predicted the apocalypse would come last Saturday, now says he made a mistake and it will occur on October 21.

California preacher Harold Camping said the Rapture will come five months to the day after May 21, his original prophecy.

The 89-year-old said he felt so bad his prediction didn't come true on Saturday, he sought refuge in a motel with his wife.

Camping made the statement to the press at the Oakland headquarters of his media empire, Family Radio International.

He also predicted the apocalypse would happen in 1994, but blamed the world's survival then on a mathematical error.

Camping had stated there was no way the Rapture would not start on Saturday at 6.p.m, and told the San Francisco Chronicle he was "flabbergasted" his doomsday prophecy didn't come about.

Camping preached some 200 million Christians would be saved and those left behind would die in a series of plagues until Earth was destroyed in a fireball on Oct. 21.

While his latest prediction was mostly met with online ridicule, some believers took it quite seriously. One man in New York spent his life savings on advertisements warning of the coming doom.

Camping's media empire has assets of more than $100 million and had $18 million in donations in 2009.
 
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