Oh dear, he's not just a happy tubby boy. (update)

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trillium

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Sigh. I'm starting to wonder if Wicket is really just fat. I've been manhandling him every day because I'm starting to wonder if there's something more going on inside than just tubbiness, and I think I feel something round, large, and lumpy in there. It's just so odd that he's so big and the other two are normal.

Waaah! I've made an appt. at the vet's for Monday. I hope I'm imagining things. Here's the silly boy wondering what I was up to...

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Thanks so much for the support - he's going in tomorrow at 6pm after work - I'm not sure why I'm really taking him in, other than to know that I'm right about it. From what I'm feeling, if it is a tumour, it's all mixed in with his organs and everything so I'm pretty sure the vet won't be able to take it out. I just have this ticking time bomb in my head now. And I'm worried about the fact that I don't know when it's going to burst, so he may go in agony while I'm at work one day or something. :(

He's happily hanging out with Hobbes and Seagram on the bed right now. They all got a special treat of baby food (peas - yum) and a small piece of walnut tonight.

So funny -- I always thought Wicket would outlive Seagram, who's older than him by several months, and Hobbes, who has his breathing issues. He's been such a healthy bouncy boy. I thought he was just naturally slowing down with age since he just passed his 2 yr. Bday on Nov. 26th.

I am hoping so hard that I'm somehow totally wrong and it's nothing!
 
trillium said:
So funny -- I always thought Wicket would outlive Seagram, who's older than him by several months, and Hobbes, who has his breathing issues.....
No reason to quit trusting your instincts yet :D (and I hope Seagram & Hobbes live a long long time yet!!!
Good luck to you & Wicket at the vet on monday!
 
Very sad right now.

He has a nice big round tumour right smack dab in the centre of his abdomen. The vet also noted that one of his organs (she thought it might be his kidney) was very enlarged as well. She thinks it very likely that the tumour is growing and adhering together with everything else in his little tummy, and given its size, she didn't think surgery was a very good option. Was really worried about bleeding with the tumour being so large and perhaps all twined into his organs and said he might well die on the table.

Her only suggestion really was that I give him lots of cuddles and make him as comfortable as possible over the next little while until he goes. Watch for him to refuse food - which I can't even imagine.

He's only two years old and he was so darned healthy. I can't believe I didn't figure out earlier that the chubbiness didn't make sense. It's just awful. I think this thing is growing pretty quickly now too so I have a feeling time is probably short.

Has anyone complained recently about how short rattie lifespans are? This sucks. It's also horrible to not be able to DO anything. Just watch him get more and more uncomfortable with this terrible thing taking up all the space inside him.

I don't know -- anyone else ever had any luck at all with trying to remove a large internal tumour?

Ugh. I need to go cuddle Wicket. :cry3:
 
:sad3: I am so sorry to hear about your poor little fur baby :heart: and you cant blame yourself for not seeing it sooner there is no way you could have known and no I dont think anyone has complained in a while about ratties short lifespans :rant:
 
My Artie :heart: had a tumour in his abdomen this summer.
It was very fast growing.
After I became aware of it, I kept him on medicam for a week so he wouldn't be in pain and then had him pts by the vet as the mass was so large it was putting too much pressure on his other organs.

very sorry that your boy, Wicket, is going through this.
 
I had a rescue boy (one of my first that truly set me on the path I am on. He got a big internal tumour, but kept going, happy, cheerful. I gave him a low dose of metacam just in case for discomfort. He went on for ages. :D The day he started facing the back of his cage in his hammock, I let him go. After my vet put him to sleep, she gave him a good feel, and said that the huge mass in his abdomen had pushed all the organs up and down and he should've been in a lot of pain, but she saw him beforehand and he wasn't. These things do happen, so enjoy the time you have left. :heart:
Pippens made it to 37 months old, this was a short time before his passing.
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Oh, I am so sorry. It is heartbreaking the way rats' lives are so short, and we are often helpless to do much. I hope that he has some good quality time with you yet. Scritches and banana mash to him.
 
I'm so sorry. I had an exploratory done on Lady and the tumor was wrapped around and invading the intestine. The vet couldn't do anything. I brought her home with metacam. She lived for another month before PTS. :hugs:
 
I had the same thing with Miss Vixey, she too had an internal mass. I did decide to have it removed. When the vet went in it was oddly not attached to anything. She was unable to recover from the surgery, it was too much on her little body. She had a hard time eating, and you could see that with every movement she was in pain. Actually I went back to the vet every single day after surgery because she was acting soo weird. Then one day I came home and she could barely breathe, I tried rushing her to the vet but she didn't make it. Vixey was my heart rat, the sweetest girl I ever had...

The video is of her before the surgery, and the pic is after. They may be hard to see they were both taken with my phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUzAiTOyvo




Sometimes I wonder if she would still be here, if I had choosen not to do the surgery.... :sad3:

Im really sorry to hear about your boy, just keep him comfy, he knows you love him...
 
It really helps me feel less alone to hear that other people have been through this too. It's so difficult to know he's going to go since he looks pretty much okay other than the kind of big belly. It makes me want to try something, anything, but that has to be weighed against how likely it would be to be successful.

The vet was kind enough to follow up with a call today and offered the option of sedating him and trying to aspirate the thing just to see what kind of tumour it is, to see if some prednisone might slow it down. But she doesn't seem too confident about it. She's referred me to a specialist in Canton, MI, who could also try the aspiration, but I'm just not sure it's worth it to put him through it.

He's a nervous soul and was terrified Monday at the vets. It took them forever to wrestle him down just to get the xray. I heard him do that rattie screeching sound in the back room -- and I know he must have thought he was fighting for his life; he was so exhausted once I got him back he just cuddled into the crook of my elbow and zonked out.

I don't know whether I ought to take him back to see if we can at least figure out what it is -- and whether prednisone might extend his life significantly -- or whether I should just let him stay comfy at home, without the extra stress of having them stick a needle in there, and perhaps miss and cause internal bleeding or other issues.

I think I'll have to feel him up again tonight to see if I can get a better sense of where the thing is and whether it would be easy to stick a needle into it. So far, I've had trouble just getting a good feel of it because it does seem to be quite deep in his abdomen. Thank you for sharing your experiences :hugs:
 
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