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kaytee

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Hi everyone... please bear with me while I attempt to explain this properly. It's gonna be long, I apologize in advance! :)

One of my boys, Jon Snow, died at the beginning of August from pneumonia. He was under vet care and on a doxy/baytril combo but it wasn't enough and he couldn't fight it off. He was only 18 months, poor sweetpea. :(

His brother Samwell is now alone, after being with him and him alone since they were born. He was seriously depressed for weeks after Jon Snow died... he hid in the corner of his cage in his little cave and only came out to eat (he's a bit of a chunker and at least it didn't affect his appetite!). He didn't want me to pick him up-- he would scramble and scurry to get back to his cage. He just wanted to be left alone. It's the cleanest that cage has ever been because he wasn't using any of it. It broke my heart.

(Incidentally, for a few days after Jon died, Sam made the strangest sounds I've every heard come out of a rat... like mournful whimpers. I haven't found anything that indicates rats "cry" when upset but I can't think of any other explanation. He stopped after about three days.)

Anyway... he's coming around a bit now so I think I would like to get Sam some company so he's not so bored and lonely, but I have a bit of a dilemma. He's always been a bit of a sneezy guy, and the cage usually has porphyrin droplets sprinkled around. Vet initially treated him for this months ago and when it didn't go away she said he would just always be that way (?). I live in a small city so there are no rat specialists but I took the opportunity of visiting a bigger city recently to take him to a specialist, who started him on a doxy/baytril combo along with metacam and an immunity booster. She said his lungs sound good, he's in good health apart from the sneeziness. That was three weeks ago and he's sneezing less for sure, but it's not 100% gone.

So I'm not sure about getting him a cagemate if he's not fully healthy, but it seems as if he will never be sneeze-free, so is he doomed to spend the rest of his life alone? I would feel awful.

Meanwhile there's a sweetie at the SPCA who has been there 11 months... almost a whole year alone, poor thing. I'm dying to give him a happy life for whatever time he has left (not really sure how old he is) but don't want to make him sick, if Sam is contagious. Also, would that be too stressful, to introduce him to a new cagemate after he's been a hermit for a year? Has he lost the ability to be social?

So I am at a loss! Help! Any advice welcome. :)
 
Post his weight, the strength of the meds and the amount he is getting so people can check that he is getting the right dose

If he has a resp. infection I would suggest that you try baytril + azithromycin (10 mg/Ib) orally, twice a day for at least 6 weeks if it is helping ..... Azithromycin can be purchased from a pharmacy using a prescription from a vet (Since it is only good for 10 days once mixed, you can mix up half a bottle at a time)


As for another rat, I would not worry about him catching something.
If this were a secondary infection he have likely died without getting on antibiotics immediately so it is likely a myco flareup or something else.

The other rat would not have lost his ability to be social .... rats need to live with other rats .... there are gradual intro steps to help make sure that no one is hurt during intros ...... intros can happen very fast and with little stress or they can take more time and be stressful ... it depends on the rats http://www.ratshackforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32368
 
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Thanks! Hey, I see you are in NB-- me too! :)

Do you think it's best to go the SPCA for a new friend, or someone trying to ditch their rat on Kijiji? Like I said, I feel bad for this guy at the SPCA (there are 3, actually-- I'm guessing brothers-- but one specifically that I took to), but at least they're being looked after; I worry about what's going to happen to Kijiji offers. Unfortunately I can't take on two new ones--my cage wouldn't be considered big enough for three.

I really want to get Sam a friend soon, if I can; I can tell he's getting cranky.
 
where are you? Moncton area?

The Moncton SPCA has 4 boys but one is offsite at a pet store in Sussex. As you said, poor little guys have been waiting for a home for almost a year, so the boys are over a year old. Unfortunately rats in shelters are not necessarily safe ... for example rats may be pts instead of being given medical care.

I was told that the 4 boys came in with a couple of others, and at the SPCA they were separated into pairs.
The rats were getting along well but then a volunteer dumped them all together in a cage and fighting broke out.
Because they did not know who went with whom, the boys were all separated and have been living as singles ever since :(
I was told that they nip fingers through the bars because someone was feeding them through the bars.
I was also told that the boys are friendly and loving.

Today, 2 of the boys were supposed to be transferred to the Oromoncto SPCA ...
You could apply to adopt the boy still at the Moncton SPCA (or 1 of the boys transferred to Oromoncto) ..... he will likely be ok with other rats if introed properly using the gradual steps, http://www.ratshackforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32368
however, it is possible that he may need a neuter.
If you run into problems and it doesn't work out, I could probably take him.
I am in Fredericton.

Your other option might be to adopt the two under a year old boys on kijiji - they are posted on here in the Maritime Rescue section.
You would use the gradual intro steps to intro them to your boy
 
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I agree with SQ, I would get him a buddy or two asap. Since he's on meds, he's safe. Also, if it's just sneezing, it's quite possible it's allergies. Good to hear his lungs are good and clear anyway.
 
I agree with SQ, I would get him a buddy or two asap. Since he's on meds, he's safe. Also, if it's just sneezing, it's quite possible it's allergies. Good to hear his lungs are good and clear anyway.

It could be allergies, smells that are irritating his respir. system, dusty bedding etc

You might want to see what lilspaz68 thinks
 
I've wondered if it was allergies... because sometimes he seems fine, othertimes he goes through a little sneezing fit. I've tried different bedding types and nothing seemed to make a difference. I suppose it could be something like the detergent we use to wash his hammocks and such? Although, it's scent-free...

Can rats be allergic to other pets? We have a dog who sheds a lot.
 
We had two chronic sneezers (we just adopted one out yesterday :) ) and it is just allergies now as to what is sometimes impossible to find. We changed bedding too many times to count and detergents and tried humidifiers thinking maybe the air was too dry..multiple rounds of antibiotics and benadryl haha and still sneezers! We also have a boy that has hiccups 2-3 times a day and is on his 2 and round of antibiotics with no improvement so think he is just that way.. Won't hurt to try the combo SQ suggested just to see if it might help but shouldn't be any issue getting him a friend so he isn't so lonely anymore.
 
Ah, it was Zeke that I took a liking to when I visited on Friday! Looks like it's meant to be. Gonna see if I can make this happen. :)
 
Here's Zeke! :)

Hard to get a good picture of him, he's so wiggly. He's got beautiful colouring on his nose and around his lower back and tail. Little dude is currently getting used to his new digs and stuffing his face.

They said he hasn't been handled much but he seemed fine with me, so I'll just have to work on getting him used to being out and about regularly. I'm sure it's stressful to have such a big change after being in the same place for so long, but he's got a lot to explore in his cage now so hopefully he'll adjust happily.

Now I just have to hope he and Sam-Sam will be pals...
 
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