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NezumiNeko

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I obviously have rats, but once they die (hopefully not for a long, long time) I'll consider getting ferrets instead of more ratties.
I know a lot about caring for pet ferrets, but I want to know from someone whose had expirence with both: What's the difference pet wise, not so much care wise, of having a ferret verses a rat, and how much harder are ferrets? Or the pros and cons of each pet. Something like that. Yay!
 
hello and welcome to the world of ferrets..oh welcome to it!

i've had ferrets for around two years now and rats for a little less.

Rats are the pick for me even though they require soo many more vet trips!

-don't listen to what anyone says ALL the websites will say that they dont smell much- as much as i love them i MUST disagree. they do smell. i have a male and a female,both desexed and cage is cleaned regularly.they smell! i have to change shirts and wash hands/arms after holding them. I thought when my grandfather told me a story about his "ferret jacket" for holding his ferrets when he was a child that it was a joke.i didnt believe it.until i had my own!

Ferrets are hilarious.if you are ever in a bad mood,just set them up in their playpen and watch them go! they're happy and amazing to watch!!

they are much much much more mischevious than rats - you know when the rats mess up their just tidied cage? imagine it times a million with ferrets! oh and they're poop and pee REALLY SMELLS! (worse than dog&cat poop and worse than male cat pee!)

they get really fluffy in winter and they're gorgeous,gorgeous pets. it's rewarding to take care of them (you know allabout the care stuff though so i wont go there)

I have found that compared to rats and just in general they arent very loving and affectionate pets. They love to explore EVERYTHING and absolutely must be supervised if not in a ferret-proofed room! they just like to have fun and that is pretty much the only thing on their minds. ( in my experience with them of course) They dont much like to stop and cuddle.even our male.they justlike to go,go ,go go, "omg,whats that?! i heard something! i want to play with it!"

also unlike rats they'll eat things they're not supposed to,they really do. Our girl ate parts of a red towel and we didnt know until we saw them in her poop.she had to be checked incase of an obstruction. so we just have to be reeeally careful what goes in the cage.

ours also will bite people they dont know.- on the face- wherever and if they get too excited will just bite us!
but i also know of an extremely placid ferret that is totally cool with everything.

If was to go back in time i'd definitely be getting a couple of older ferrets from a ferret welfare society or rescue. especially if it's your first.i wish i'd done it. All the nip-training concepts confused our ferrets I think. We were told to do it one way then read to do it another and unlike dogs where there is a lot of straight forward training info..it wasnt so for us at the time! so definitely choose your method and stick to it. thats a mistake we made!

rats are loving creatures.ferrets are playful creatures that are full of energy when theyre not sleeping.

All i can say is - be prepared! it's A LOT of play. I also feel that they need a fair bit more interaction than rats.
my rats appreciate a pat and cuddles throughout the day as long as their play time out of the cage. - if they dont get an extended play time every now and again,they dont seem to mind because the cage is quite large- whereas the ferrets really feel it if you can't be there to let them out and tire them out. they need a lot of psychological stimulation. LOTS of toys,noisy things...you know!

They're definitely a high maintenance animal. much more than the rats. I find my rats are much neater and less work.

This could be though that i just REALLY love my rats- i do prefer them.

I'm trying to think of something important to say but i can't remember much i'm tired!
-just make sure to have more than one and to have the largest possible cage you can.A lot of them,like the cages sold for rats are just not big enough. joining the ferret nation cages is a good idea and making the levels fill the whole cage. they need a lot of space.

OH!!and theyre harder to feed! it seems to be much more difficult to find ferret food than rat food. it's expensive about $20 a bag. (im unsure where in the world you're from though) -definitely ONLY meat but i'm pretty sure that you already knew.
-oh and NEVER cat food or dog food.dont listen to stupid pet store retail staff -ever!

ok i think thats all..just lots of exercise and more frequent cage tidy-ups than rats need,way different diet and lots of interestng toys and things for them.also they cannot handle the heat,lots worse than rats with it!

ok i've typed enough..and off to bed with my rambling self!
 
I don't think I'm gonna get a ferret. Too much work, and I didn't realize the poop was so stinky, but I don't mind the musky smell. I just wish rats lived longer. *sigh*
 
Wow, that was a great post benzin.fox. You really tell it like it is and that's good. It's better to be prepared and know what you are getting into.
 
I agree! I wish more pet books or websites were like that! Most of them really tend to romanticize their subjects and gloss over or downplay any faults.
 
-why, thank you. I so agree so many books/websites/even people don't tell it like it is!

i really did NOT mean to talk you out of ferrets,they're cute,fluffy and gorgeous but definitely thought i had to say something about the downsides - we found that we couldnt keep the cage inside like I do with the rats. Even with regular cleaning it does tend to smell,unlike rats though they do well with a cage off the ground outside as long as they're looked after when the heat comes! I'm unsure how people keep them inside all the time, I guess if there was some kind of designated 'ferret room'? that's just my thoughts though and i guess it really comes down to the ferret! like rats,they've got different personalities and so on.

I feel bad now! You sound like you'd make a great owner/mum/dad of whichever pet you choose.

I also wish rats lived longer..it is SO HEARTBREAKING!
 
Summed that up very nicely. I babysat my sisters ferrets for a long weekend and that was more than ebough for me. My daughter who fancied herself owning a ferret was done as well LOL

Thye are wonderful animals, thats never in question. Its the upkeep and the smell, no thank you.

I will keep my marinated rat men and do perfectly fine :wink2:
 
benzin.fox said:
I also wish rats lived longer..it is SO HEARTBREAKING!
That's so true. We all do. But if a rat's average lifespan was 20 years . . . would that be enough? No matter how long a loved one lives, be it an animal companion, spouse, relative, friend . . . it's NEVER enough, is it? :sad3:
 
It's annoying to find accurate info these days. I really like ferrets, but couldn't be sure of how difficult they were. On miceandrats.com, this is what is says about rats:

The tank or cage
should be fairly large, for example 2' x 1' x 1' and escape proof.
aquarium with a wire lid is nice and easy to clean and will contain the
bedding without any mess.

I'm glad that people are knowlegeble and crazy about their pets on this forum. It's very helpful, especially after looking on yahoo answers.
So thanks Benzin.Fox, 'cause I don't want to give a crappy home to ferrets. ^_^!
 
But don't give up on ferrets. They are amazing pets. Of course, the rats will always be number 1 in my mind. :)

I did rescue an older man ferret and he's a treat but very high maintenance. Simba is his name. He's too old for me to get him a friend, but he seems to like playing with the cats. He is in the basement of the house and the rats are on the top floor. When Simba ran up the stairs, you could hear that the rats were nervous. So I keep them entirely seperate....ALWAYS. Ferrets require tons of attention. I would say 100x more than a rat. Simba gets out two to three times a day for at least an hour each time and his cage is overpowered with toys.

As far as smell goes. I clean his cage (wash it down) every other day. I clean his litter once a day. He gets a bath two or three times a month. These are all things that you need to consider as well. He's got the musky smell, but I don't really think that he smells horrible. Guess it's just personal opinion.
 
Fostering might be a good idea perhaps? I like the idea of "trying it out" and if it's not for you then you don't adopt one. But I don't think we have any ferret rescues in Sudbury or near us. I've always wanted a ferret. I'd have to wait till my rat numbers are down though and that will be hard to do.
What I tell myself about the lifespan of a rat... if it were longer, I would never have had the opportunity to have already loved over 200 rats.
 
I'd love ferrets, but I don't have the time, or too many rooms that could be easily ferret proofed. The nice thing about rats are that you can spend time with them while doing other stuff, because they're so cuddly. Mine are on my shoulder right now! So soft and warm they are. Jorats, I like your lifespan philosophy. I love getting new pets, and experimenting with them. (Not in a lab rat way, but seeing what I like about each pet, or what they like that I do.)

I though bathing ferrets made them stink. Or am I crazy? I wish I lived with ferrets, but didn't take care of them, in the way the rest of my family gets to interact with my rats, but they don't HAVE to, and they never touch a turd. Cleaning a cage every other day would be a nightmare, especially if its even more filled with toys than a rat cage. Not. Fun. And with summer ending (tomorrow! ACH!) I can't be playing with a ferret 3 hours a day, and not many people would want to look after a ferret when I go away. (My rats were only away for so long because our house was on the market, and completely removing every trace of rat when a buyer comes is impossible!)
 
NezumiNeko i doubt very much that you'd make a bad ferret owner! the fact that you do your research first is damn awesome! so many people don't! you would be great if you decided you wanted to go through with it.

-and forstering does sound like a great idea. we have a ferret welfare society here and i'm sure they'd agree that it'd be a good idea. -they also always take the ferrets back if it doesnt work out.

-also we find that if we over bath them that they make more of their smell to compensate for the fact that the bath took it away!

ours are only 2 though and sound a lot different in personality to lj's who posted about the older ferret (sounds like a lovely fellow!)

Also with the cage cleaning- it's not the hassle of the cleaning that is annoying it's just that i find ferret poop/pee really,really bad smelling! i clean out my girls rat cage everyday (not a full scrubbing but change all bedding rinse off plastic housing,change water and empty poop tray) and that is fine but i leave the ferret cleaning to my boyfriend,they've become his and the rats are mine. ferret litter tray changing is just a stinkier job and so i let someone else do it!
 
Oh, I thought that meant taking apart the cage, scrubbing it down, and replacing all the toys. I could handle mini pull-out-the-poop cleanings. I'd like to foster a ferret, but I doubt the opportunity will come up. It makes me so sad how people mindlessly abandon ferrets.
 
it makes me sad too:( I get really annoyed when people buy them on impulse and when i see pet stores & retail staff selling them. Over here they give all the wrong info/over charge and that is without shots/worming and not seeing the parents.

i think that's how a lot of them end up being abandoned.

but then that's pet stores!
 
I know you've already desided but I wanted to come in with my 2cents.

I prefer ferrets to rats (not something you usually say on a rat forum but oh well!). Well socialised rats are more licky, and being small and rodents they do smell less and have less maintence, but they don't live long.

I've found baby ferrets are insane with their constant running, but they do bond to their ppl. Tazz does a lap around the room then spends the rest of the time trying to get me to chase him. He will dance up to me, open his mouth and start butt scooting backwards. Ferrets are definate clowns! I usually say picture a hyper-active kitten, and thats a typical ferret. Some are cuddly, and Bear used to lick me, and yes Squirrel was an ankle biter (but only cause she wanted me to sit down on the floor with her to be at her level).

If smell is a problem get a single ferret, often shelters have ferrets that for some reason don't get along with others and need to go to a single ferret only home. As long as the bedding is washed weekly and the litter pan is scooped daily there isn't alot of smell (assuming that your not keeping them in a teensy room that is, it would be more noticable then). Try an air filter with a carbon hepa filter insert. The poo does smell bad, unlike cats they don't bury it but they are litter trained. As long as you don't let it sit around its fine. Because they are carnivores food only stays in their digestive tract about 4 hours. To cut down on smell give only a high quality high protein food. The better the food the less they need to eat to meet their nutritional needs, the less poo in the pan. Also avoid any foods with carbs in the first few ingredients(not good for them), or fish (any fish makes them smell sooo bad).
Also bathing too often makes them produce more oil which gives them that musky smell. Unless they are dirty they don't need to be bathed more than a few times.

Its like having a cat or dog, they need daily play time, at least 2 hours, but this is easy. I have Tazz out when I'm vegging infront of the tv. He steals the dogs dinner, checks in with me every 2 minuites and has a blast with his toys and tubes. I have him in a ferret nation cage, plenty of room for 2-3 ferrets. Most of the time they all jam into a single hammock :p Ferrets sleep alot to make up for their antics when they are outside.

They need yearly vet visits and vaccinations, but if your lucky you have a friend for about a decade.
 
Ashley... you make me want them. The smell isn't an issue for me, it's an issue for my family, friends, and anyone but an animal enthusiast.
Some questions

How often do they have to go to the bathroom?
Can they open cabinets?
Do they kill leather furniture or upholstery? (Thinking which rooms would be best.)
Do they mark?
How would they do if they got less attention for a week or so? (In case I go on vacation or whatever.)
Are they nice to old sleeping dogs? (The dog hurting the ferrets wouldn't be a problem. They're 13 and the least agressive animals ever. They ignore my rats.)
 
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