No emergency, do these symptoms match with PT?

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Are these symptoms exclusive to a pituitary tumor?
  • Weight loss
  • Falling when trying to climb into Sputnik before other symptoms
  • Wanting to go on top of the cage every time, running around a bit and then going back in. More than first.
  • Really not willing to go into travel carrier.
  • Not drinking anymore
  • Unable to navigate ramp
  • Confusion, not knowing where to go / where things are
  • Climbing up to Sputnik, but not able to climb into it and then falling
  • Clubbing
  • Curled on side
  • Excessive bruxxing
  • Inability to grasp hard food
  • Dropping bits of food from mouth
  • Having difficulty with swallowing
  • Seeming hungry, taking a few bites and then falling asleep (or worse)
  • Walking off edges
  • Being completely limp when being held, feet and tail just hanging down
  • Seeking human attention, not wanting to be in cage
Or could these symptoms be caused by a (severe) ear infection?

My vet said that it was a pituitary tumor, but when I ask if it could have been an ear infection she just says no and does not explain why she thinks that.

Can a chronic infection cause a pituitary tumor to grow faster / cause symptoms earlier?

And how quickly can cabergoline start to work?
 
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The unable to hold food is concerning, first question I have would be how old are they ? Can you take a video of them trying to eat and maybe trying to move then post it somewhere like YouTube and link it here.? I can't answer the cabergoline but I'm hoping someone with more experience can help you out soon.
 

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A lot of those symptoms indicate PT over inner ear infection. If you can upload a video elsewhere and paste the link here we could tell for sure.
 

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Could an inner ear infection hasten the progression of a pituitary tumor? Would a bad outcome only be caused by the pituitary tumor itself if the ear infection is not that bad or is it possible that the combination causes a bad outcome?
 

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Could an inner ear infection hasten the progression of a pituitary tumor? Would a bad outcome only be caused by the pituitary tumor itself if the ear infection is not that bad or is it possible that the combination causes a bad outcome?
Unfortunately if it is a pt(which it most likely is) there's never a good outcome. You can give medication to slow it but in the end they'll always succumb to it
 

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Of course it can but untreated PT once you've gone through the initial stages can go very fast. Inner ear usually is dizziness, circling, head tilt.
 

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This was one a half day before she really went downhill: Streamable Video

Notice her knuckling her left front paw at the start of the video.

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This was a couple days earlier. Is she knuckling her right front paw here?

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Left front paw knuckling?

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Again: left front paw knuckling (when turning)? 01-07-2021

Surgical removal of fibroadenoma: 07-06-2021
 
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One more thing I just recalled: grabbing food with her teeth when I gave it to her and then dropping it.

Edit: I have found a video and now I would have noticed it at an earlier stage. I feel so bad and guilty right now...
 
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