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First... we have been doing intros for a month. We did 5 or 6 days, then some neuters on the 19th then started them up about 6 days ago. During all this time we have been switching cages so this wasn't just a fast intro. They also share the same floor space and I have removed all the mean boys testicles. I do not recommend to go from one step to another super fast. If you do not know the warning signs then it can cause great harm. The problems always happen with each step. Move from scary to neutral you will have some bickering. Move from neutral to cage, you will have dominance and pecking order issues. It can be dangerous to move to fast before the rats you are introducing are ready.

That being said

My intros are done!

I cannot even begin to tell you how majorly excited I am. We tested the floor cold turkey. No scary ground. It was insane how the boys got along. They had little boxing matches but they were so textbook for male rats it was perfect to watch. They were not angry or upset at all. No one was stand offish to anyone and no one was mean. They boys were a bit stressed because they had no where to hide. I wouldnt allow them anything on the floor that I couldnt see easily. I decided with the cage doors off and the cage empty, which is something new, i never tried that before except on move in days, I would see how they react.

I was on the floor ready to pounce on any boy that was being bad...Problem is, no one did. We left them like that for hours...

They had one mean rat pile happening.
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So I decided ok, lets just see how they will be with another part of the cage, cleaned it up and opened it up. Still nothing.

Ok so lets add the triple part on.... so i cleaned it up and I opened it up.

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and all they did was go on the very top shelf and sleep..

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I guess you can take the balls away from the rat but you cannot take the mean look away LOL
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After a few more hour with the full cage doors open, I put the doors on. and nothing.

I did night time meds and fed them

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That is my mean John, happy as a clam eating with the boys he bit!
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I am good with judging my boys. I have to be with the amount of males I have. I have done so many intros and read so many on here that I have learned to do them very well. Jorats helped me in major ways for WEEKS with my first ones. Now I just love to share and get different aspects and help when I do get stuck...Which happens. I neuter the means ones and that makes it work. Period. Plus I have some amazing little manrats :)

I cannot believe it ended like this. So damn easy after being such a pain and so many injuries from through the bars! Jphn was Templeton II and he turned around fast.

Had i seen fights or anything I would of stayed on the floor but I knew once I put the part of the cage there that they were going to be ok. I believe it is from switching cages for a month and the boys are used to smelling them in the cage so their bodies were just added into what they were used to.

It is unreal though. I have had a group of 19 before but most were intact. Now I think I have a viable group of 19 with 9 of the 18 boys neutered. For now they will live in the triple. I am not concerned because they will have so much out time that they wont worry about the space. I plan on trying to get the other group with them after i get romeo and Sendai neutered then we will have them in two triple fns. Not sure how yet but we will.

I have to learn to live with a group of 19 rats! Which should be fun because that is a lot of rats out at one time.


and Yes he is Jorats! I love that little guy. He is my only blue boy after losing all mine so I think he found a void in my heart and filled it right up.
 
mamarat said:
Wow you make it look so easy. What a fantastic group of boys.

this final part was very easy for some reason. I have to give the credit to my vet for skillfully removing the devil beads.

I still cannot stop smiling. They have had out time all day now since I dont have to switch between the two groups. I am one very happy person right now.
 
Wow, congratulations! I just read your thread the whole way through - that's a lot of work and patience, but it paid off big time. I'm sure the boys are enjoying all the extra time out now. :)
 
Joanne said:
Wow, congratulations! I just read your thread the whole way through - that's a lot of work and patience, but it paid off big time. I'm sure the boys are enjoying all the extra time out now. :)

They did. I have the rat room set up in two sections. One part my rexzillas play on, the same part my oldest group of rats get out time on when I have the rexzillas put up. We were taking turns with the dumbo boys and music men so they would get a few hours each. My third cage on that wall get to stay out all night, it rotates with them and the older rats. So today we let the big monster group out in the little play area around their cage at around 9am, i keep them pinned in so they can be out safely. the rexzillas had their out time, we let the older group out for the majority of the day probably 10 hours and the boys had from 9am this morning till i put them up at 11pm :) now my final out time group is out and they all had and got hours of out time.

I am happy for them. It makes my life so much easier but this is just phase one, i have a few more to do or at least one or two intros left.


jorats said:
Wow! All done. That's so awesome. I really need to get my butt in gear and just do mine.

and yes you do. The hardest part would be forcing myself to go through the work of pulling 19 rats out and toting them to the dining room table. I hated that part of it not the intros itself although these were so boring since the neuters. Kait would fall asleep at the table watching them LOL and yes I made her do most of the intros LOL so i have that advantage
 
So I started intros with Phantom, Ace and Jax into the group of 19.

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Jax was a bit of a boxer and was having a hard time adjusting but I did toss a gazillion rats at the poor guy so i am sure it is overwhelming. He is fine now. They spend about 6 or 7 hours in the play pen yesterday.
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They are doing very well in the play pen. I am waiting for the girls to heal another day or two and I will add them into the mix.

I couldnt help myself :)

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They are looking great, all together.
When you add the girls, are you going to just add them to the playpen? Have they met the girls from before or will this be the first intro to the girls?
 
That is the plan only because the boys are amazing and the girls did really well on their intro. it isnt easy doing intros with 29 rats lol so the play pen is saving me right now.

I dont see any issues they were great with cordelia and they hump boys more than girls so I will put them all together in a clean playpen with nothing in it.

I think after this we will move in fast. Just have to get the cage ready now that I figured out how to do it LOL

They will have a triple and two section of the triple next to them. So it will give them options to move around in. They get enough out time I dont think one less section is going to make a difference.
 
and this is the first intro to the girls they were just spayed on monday and I didnt want any complications as far as pregnancy for their spays. some are very young still 10 weeks old so I didnt want to take any chances with them.
 
I put the girls in the mix. The youngest one is a screamer but 29 rats in total would be a bit of a shell shock to anyone or thing.

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She thinks she is tough.
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These two live together as it is . They are bad for a little bit then they adjust.
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They have been in there for a few hours already.
 
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