Beginner owner in need of help

dmc0811

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I posted this on Reddit but thought I should share on here as well.

I got my first rats (2 males) after a long time of researching and saving up! According to the breeder, they were about 1.5 months old when I got them. Sunday will be 2 weeks since I’ve had them and they’ve settled in for the most part, but they’re still so scared of me :(

I did a bathtub bonding session for the first time last night which went okay, nothing monumental happened, but today they woke up terrified of me curling up in the corner of the cage? Some days they’re friendly and other days they act like that.. is that normal?

They don’t use any toys, hammocks, or ropes i got them unless treats are involved (with the hammocks). They’re not very interested in anything besides hiding. Hell, they’re not even eating their Oxbow food which according to everyone is the best. I’m trying to wean them off of Mazuri which is what they ate with the breeder and they only eat the Oxbow once they run out of the Mazuri blocks.

When cage cleaning day comes around I put them in my bathtub. I have the You and Me Rat Manor if that helps with context and tips. For now I’m too scared to let them free roam my bedroom just in case they hide and never come out.

I don’t know how well they were socialized, if at all, before I got them. I assumed they were used to people and were okay with being held, but again, I don’t know how they were treated before I got them.

I really want to be able to hold them, cuddle them, pet them, play with them, etc. with ease but everyday seems like 1 step forward and 2 steps back. How do I get them to love me and not associate me with fear?
Does anyone have any tips on socializing shy rats, what I’m doing wrong, what I should be doing etc.??

EDIT: more info:
sometimes even if i look at them they’ll run :(
i try to baby talk them and just talk to them in general, i put my hand in they cage and they’ll smell and nibble sometimes, but eye contact freaks them out!!
 

Kye

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Alright well first thing, I wouldn't get anymore rats from that person. As for bonding sit by the cage and just talk to them ! Literally talk about anything so they get used to your voice and smell. If you want to you can try to sit with just your hands and wrist inside the cage while you chatter, you can even hold their favorite treats to try and convince them to come out. Some rats are just jumpy but that sounds extreme, I personally wouldn't take them out of the cage unless you're cleaning so they can feel comfortable and I'd also try to add quite a few ground hiding spots for them in the mean time maybe even make a 'tunnel' close to the cage door so they can feel protected while also figuring you out
 

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Alright well first thing, I wouldn't get anymore rats from that person. As for bonding sit by the cage and just talk to them ! Literally talk about anything so they get used to your voice and smell. If you want to you can try to sit with just your hands and wrist inside the cage while you chatter, you can even hold their favorite treats to try and convince them to come out. Some rats are just jumpy but that sounds extreme, I personally wouldn't take them out of the cage unless you're cleaning so they can feel comfortable and I'd also try to add quite a few ground hiding spots for them in the mean time maybe even make a 'tunnel' close to the cage door so they can feel protected while also figuring you out
thanks for the advice. i took them out while cleaning their cage in the (rat-proofed) bathroom today and they were running through my legs and feet but when i’d look at them they’d go to hide so idk if they knew the legs and feet were mine haha. i’m in the process of making a makeshift playpen and figuring out area that u don’t have to move them to. i’m also trying to figure out what treats would be irresistible to them because the ones i have now store bought and yogurt and fruit are only taken when they’re in a more optimistic mood.
 

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Just take things slow and be patient. I would continue to take them out if I were you, in a safe, fun room (perhaps with a few healthy treats--you can hide them around some boxes so they can look for them, then they'll associate playtime with the treats); after some time, they'll get used to them. They may just be freaking out because they were taken away from what they knew as their home. If you're a good pet owner, they'll come to associate you with fun, comfort, food, etc. The best advice I can give you is, do your best to try to see the world as they see it. Like a lot of animals, rats don't gaze lovingly into the eyes of humans; they may perceive you looking at them as challenging or frightening (which is what dogs do). Another example--for a person, it's easiest to pick up a rat by just grabbing it around it's body, but this is scary for most rats (at least until they trust you). They are much more comfortable being picked up by having you gently cup your hands and picking them up that way. So part of earning their trust is you learning to respect the way they see the world and adjusting your behavior accordingly.
 

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By the way, it's always tricky to socialize rats, but the ones I had that were most like the ones you're describing were my daughter's first ones, also from a breeder. (All of my others, about ten over the years, have been from a rescue.) I went to the breeder's house, and the rat room seemed like a crazy, dirty, chaotic hell hole, to be honest with you. But to the three rats that we took home, it was probably very pleasant to be surrounded by lots of other rats. They spent the first two weeks terrified of us and huddled in the corner of their cage. The breeder told us to handle them a lot and they would come around--and they did.
 

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