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Jaana

Jaana

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Hey,
So my girl coco has been through a bit recently. About a month and half or so she has been urinnating blood for unforeseen reasons. She has been back and forth to the vets, been on meds has had X-rays done, to which a specialist looked at and said it is possibly some kind of cyst and that a ultrasound will help to determine and I have booked in for next week. They have her metacam a couple of weeks back to start, but where she had been on prednisolone for some time I had been slowly weining her of that...was on 1/4 tablet, down to 1/8 for week, then down to 1/16 for 5 days which is up to today. I am now going to stop that and wait for 5 days to start the metacam, however I have just noticed this evening she appears to be making some kind of strange sound when breathing. Please see video link. I assume this is to with her respiratory, but just wanted clarification and what should I do should I take her to the vet, or wait till she starts her metacam as I know this may help.

Many thanks
Jaana
 
What antibiotics did they try? Did they ever mention genital mycoplasmosis? Usually with vaginal bleeding, vets will put a rat on antibiotics that are effective against myco (not all are) to see if the bleeding stops, hence a genital myco outbreak. With the congested respiratory infection on top of it, it's even more looking that way.

If the bleeding continues then they start looking at further reasons, like uterine infection, polyps or masses causing the bleeding.
 
Just a PS to my nonexistent post (lol), bit i always weened my ratties of prednisolone by going from the least amount once per day to that same least amount once every other day, for a week, and then discontinue altogether. Just my opinion, but thats that ive slways generally thought was the usual weening method. FYI
 
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lilspaz68 said:
What antibiotics did they try? Did they ever mention genital mycoplasmosis? Usually with vaginal bleeding, vets will put a rat on antibiotics that are effective against myco (not all are) to see if the bleeding stops, hence a genital myco outbreak. With the congested respiratory infection on top of it, it's even more looking that way.

If the bleeding continues then they start looking at further reasons, like uterine infection, polyps or masses causing the bleeding.
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well they ruled out it being any kind of infection because I forgot to mention that she also had a culture done. She has only started showing signs of this sound she is making yesterday, she was on antibiotic for I would say 6 weeks and it being baytril as well. I stopped it when I started lowering her dosage of the steroid as I knew she was coming of it. Her X-ray didn't show to much and I think that's why the next step is the ultrasound, although the specialist said it's loooking more like a cyst and that a ultrasound can help to determine this.
 
I'm not familiar with bisolvon, but I know the antibiotics should start helping on or about day 3 (I think today if she started later on Friday). If they haven't helped yet, you may ask to add another one to the baytril. Usually azythramycin. Maybe Lilspaz, or SQ will have better advice for you. I hope she gets better soon!
 
Dena said:
I'm not familiar with bisolvon, but I know the antibiotics should start helping on or about day 3 (I think today if she started later on Friday). If they haven't helped yet, you may ask to add another one to the baytril. Usually azythramycin. Maybe Lilspaz, or SQ will have better advice for you. I hope she gets better soon!
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Thank you. I may have to ask for another because she may be to used to baytril since he was on it for many weeks beforehand.
 
Can i ad an observation of mine from many years of, well, observing? Rats are just like people. They all have their own identity and personality. They also have their own immunity strength s (and weaknesses). What I guess I'm trying to say is.... Every rat has their own level of immunity, or, their own ability to fight off URIs and other maladies. So your girl could have a huge, instantaneous improvement to just Baytril, or, sadly, she could be one of the less fortunate rats that have absolutely no response to any and all antibiotics, no matter what you try. Or, most likely, she will fall somewhere in between those outliers. Now, i i don't want to sound controversial, but I have, IMO, observed a marked difference in certain rats reaction to Myco, in particular. The delineation follows their genetic makeup, specifically, which lab rat strain they originated from. Such is also the case with other issues, especially tumors. I won't go into which rats get which conditions, but it's fair to day that this theory makes perfect sense when you factor in genetics. Anyway, I notice your girl is a PEW? These rats have their own specific health issues that i have observed, but the lack of response to antibiotic treatment of URIs is not one of them. So, hopefully that's a good thing for her. But i HAVE noticed that PEWs, moreso than all rats in general, hide their illnesses and injuries extremely busy well. So she quite possibly, or, dare i say... Quite probably, has had her Myco smoldering (for lack of a better word i can think of off the top of my head) for a significant amount of time, or, her whole live, which has finally progressed to the point where she is unable to hide it anymore. That is very unfortunate since it has most likely done permanent damage. Do you know the "rat phone" technique of listening to her lungs? Its pretty simple if you don't, you just hold her body as you would a phone,cup to your ear, holding her against your head, and listen to her breathing. Most rats won't allow it for long, so try bending down and letting her sort of stand on a table as you listen. Anyway, I'm sure you'll hear her rumbled breaths. Hopefully as treatment time goes by she gets better. But you should always do regular health checks on her, as well as all your rats, with the "rat phone" a mandatory part of those checkups. I hope she responds to treatment and recovers. But she will ALWAYS have myco, it just depends on what state it is in, and how far it has progressed, it eventually becomes chronic in many rats. My prayers and healing vibes go out to her.
 
Rocket99 said:
Can i ad an observation of mine from many years of, well, observing? Rats are just like people. They all have their own identity and personality. They also have their own immunity strength s (and weaknesses). What I guess I'm trying to say is.... Every rat has their own level of immunity, or, their own ability to fight off URIs and other maladies. So your girl could have a huge, instantaneous improvement to just Baytril, or, sadly, she could be one of the less fortunate rats that have absolutely no response to any and all antibiotics, no matter what you try. Or, most likely, she will fall somewhere in between those outliers. Now, i i don't want to sound controversial, but I have, IMO, observed a marked difference in certain rats reaction to Myco, in particular. The delineation follows their genetic makeup, specifically, which lab rat strain they originated from. Such is also the case with other issues, especially tumors. I won't go into which rats get which conditions, but it's fair to day that this theory makes perfect sense when you factor in genetics. Anyway, I notice your girl is a PEW? These rats have their own specific health issues that i have observed, but the lack of response to antibiotic treatment of URIs is not one of them. So, hopefully that's a good thing for her. But i HAVE noticed that PEWs, moreso than all rats in general, hide their illnesses and injuries extremely busy well. So she quite possibly, or, dare i say... Quite probably, has had her Myco smoldering (for lack of a better word i can think of off the top of my head) for a significant amount of time, or, her whole live, which has finally progressed to the point where she is unable to hide it anymore. That is very unfortunate since it has most likely done permanent damage. Do you know the "rat phone" technique of listening to her lungs? Its pretty simple if you don't, you just hold her body as you would a phone,cup to your ear, holding her against your head, and listen to her breathing. Most rats won't allow it for long, so try bending down and letting her sort of stand on a table as you listen. Anyway, I'm sure you'll hear her rumbled breaths. Hopefully as treatment time goes by she gets better. But you should always do regular health checks on her, as well as all your rats, with the "rat phone" a mandatory part of those checkups. I hope she responds to treatment and recovers. But she will ALWAYS have myco, it just depends on what state it is in, and how far it has progressed, it eventually becomes chronic in many rats. My prayers and healing vibes go out to her.
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Hey...thanks for your input. You say that as her being a PEW she has most likely suffered with this for a long time, but surely I would of heard differences in her breathing sooner, maybe not acting different, as you say rats are good at hiding illnesses. So I am slightly confused as to why all of a sudden now it would come out, as she is reaching 2 years old. I put it down to maybe as she has been suffering with this blood in the urine problem, that she could have developed this URI along the way, due to her immune system potentially being weakened from all the meds she had been taking and maybe stress could factor into this as well. She under went a ultrasound on Monday, to try and see what has caused this blood in the urine, as well as a previous x ray and culture done. I haven't seen any massive signs in improvement as of yet with the Baytril and she has now been back on it for 7 days.
 
Just by the moxi in it, I'd say it's in the amoxycillin family. Not sure how good it is for respiratory. But you can look at www.ratguide.com and look it up.
 

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