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Snails

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I joined this forum for the sole purpose of giving people insight on the fact that Ashley has not quit and is still pumping out babies of rats and mice.

To give a little backstory, here is my experience with her.
When I first saw her, I thought she was amazing and great, bragging about her. After talking to her about her rats, she invited me to This monstrous group and me being me, posted about my Local reptile store. I said that they took good care of their rats, making sure they're not too overcrouded, making sure they don't suffer (When one gets sick, they try to feed them off since they can't afford vet care for feeders), and that their rats come from a good, diverse line to ensure good health. I feel that I should mention they people where I live say "They even take good care of their crickets!" and that you can hold pretty much any reptile there since they're usually held from birth in the store to ensure the best quality pets. Anyways, I said that if anyone could afford it and wanted a good quality rat for sure, they should buy from her. Oh boy, was that EVER a mistake. People lashed out at me, claiming that I was "comparing her rats to feeder rats". I never posted in the group again, but stayed to observe what was happening. I tried to search for better, perhaps nicer breeders in hamilton, and I found the truth about Ashley. Discusted, I refrained from ever even thinking about buying rats from her, but I still kept her as a contact and I never left the group. I felt I needed to keep an 'eye' on her. Recently, I realised alot of people think she quit, which is not the case. I'm going to show you guys some stuff about her recent activity and the group.

When I first joined the group, it was pretty much only filled with people who bred rats for pets, which soon changed. Now theres ads for the sales of tub breeding racks, Labratory-style stainless steel breeding racks, reptile sales, hairless breeder rats and a few people who either want their rats to go to a good home or are selling extra cages. The group is oozing feeder-breeders and misinformed owners who learn the wrong things. It's sort of toxic and hurts to look at.

Now, for Ashley, from what I know she now breeds Fancy Mice, Spiny Mice, and Degus.

In terms of rats, she breeds plenty of risky varieties, such as:
- Dwarfs: Health issues related to the breeder RRLM mass-producing them.
- Harleys: Known to have mastitis, sensitivities to protein, minor skin issues, and hormonal problems involving the males.
- Merles & Pearls: Pearl is a homozygous lethal gene often paired up with Merle, which is exactly what she does.
- Silvermanes: known for having problems with genetic hormonal issues.
- Various blue varieties: Known for their unstable health and sometimes behavior due to mass-production.
- Satins: Known for having respiratory issues.
- High Whites: Higher risk of megacolon.
- Head Markings: Associated with High-whites.
- Down-Unders: Known to be homozygous lethal.
And then list goes on, and on, and on...


Her pictures on her rattery facebook page are pitiful, with some being (with the dates in no exact order) horrendous in terms of breeding ethics. If you plan on calling her out, I suggest you have one account for 'spying' and another to call her out, so you can keep an eye on her.
 
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On the ratshack, we generally do not condone any type of breeding whatsoever. We recommend that every owner adopt rats from legitimate rescues or past owners that need to rehome(our classified section of the forum is FULL of opportunities all over North America to rescue/adopt rats).

I haven't looked into the facebook group, because being a breeder's group it doesn't follow our Ratshack morals/opinions of keeping the animal's wellbeing as a highest priority. If you know of any owners on there who are looking for good information, advice, and support with how to be the best owners possible, please send them over here. The only way to stop careless people who breed for silly aesthetics, completely ignoring the wellbeing of the animal, is to inform their customers not to buy from them. :/
 
The group for breeders and owners, and I honestly stay in there to keep an eye on people for help and ofc, Ashley.
 
Welcome !

This is a rat rescue based group.
We do not condone any type of breeding (as previously said) and we encourage people not to purchase rats from pet stores.
We support and promote rescuing rats or getting rats from shelters, rescues or rats being rehomed.

Thanks for letting us know that she is still in business but imo we really do not need to see all that info and the pics
Many people on this forum are from Ontario and we are aware just how horrible that particular person is :(
 
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It sucks because what she is doing isn't illegal, so there isn't much anyone can do to stop it. :/
All we can do is try to inform the community and hopefully convince as much people as possible to leave her market/group.


Snails, have you made a welcome page about yourself and your rats? We'd love to give you the proper ratshack welcome and see your babies. :)
 
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