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Old 06-20-2017, 04:45 PM   #11
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I will. I'm making her another appointment with a different vet. My cat's vet used to work with him and it sounds like he may have more experience with rats than my current exotics vet. Hopefully, he'll have some clue what's going on with her. And I'll update you later this week after we see him.

I gave her some avocado last night and a little bit of boiled egg with her dinner. Her body temp and weight is still good for now. And I turned the temperature in the house up a little for her.


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Old 06-21-2017, 02:02 AM   #12
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Oh dear yes she looks very unwell in that picture. Very thin and likely dehydrated too. You are a good rat mommy to keep on top of it watching her so closely and seeing a vet.


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We have a vet appointment tomorrow morning. Hopefully I'll have a better idea what's going on after that.
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Ok keep us updated on your sweetheart.
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:21 PM   #15
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Okay. So, this was a new vet and so far I like him. And the trip was close to home and not as big a hit to my Care Credit card. So that's good news.

I brought Mari in a carrier with her cagemate Tamsin, for comfort, and I had my boy Maisy in a separate carrier because he started worrying me a couple nights ago, too. So, I'll go over Mari first since this thread was about her, and then I'll share what I learned about Maisy after, for anyone interested. Honestly, though, I left feeling better about Mari, but worse about my little boy who I thought had a simple problem.

The things he wants to look at first are parasites and metabolic issues. She seemed really healthy to him, but he did take note of what I told him about how seriously her coloring fluctuates and he also wants to consider anemia when we get around to blood work. First, though, he wants a stool sample. So, I'm gonna get that in this week and if we rule out parasites, we're gonna do some blood work and move on to our next set of possible issues. In the meantime, he approved the fattier diet I've been keeping her on. So we'll keep that up and I'll feed her some of her dinner individually to monitor her eating and make sure the other rats in the cage aren't making it worse by stealing food from her.

Basically, he told me what I kind of already knew. A naked rat could have a variety of health problems passed down to her and it's just going to be a matter of being persistent in keeping her as healthy as possible while we narrow down our options. This could still be a long road, but I feel confident with this vet. I think we're gonna figure this out.

Maisy does not have mites, which makes it less likely that Mari has mites, so he's not considering that as an exacerbating factor in her condition for right now. He doubted with how badly Maisy has bitten his legs and tail up that they wouldn't have picked up a single mite on the skin scrapes they did of him. That's good for Mari, because that's something else we can rule out, but it's scary for Maisy. We have even fewer answers now as to why he's hurting himself so badly. His head tilt has also worsened, so we're treating it first like he has a deep inner ear infection that was missed by his previous vet. But the other thing he wants me to consider is the possibility that he has neurological damage and that both the worsening tilt and the stress that's causing him to hurt himself are symptoms of that. He gave me antibiotics and steroids and we're gonna hope the issue is in his ear and not his brain.

Both of these kiddos are just babies. I've never had rats this young and I was really hoping this group would have long, healthy lives. And it's my 5 and 6 month olds that I'm having to take in to get checked for some serious and long-running issues. I feel good about this vet and glad that he's so optimistic about baby Mari, but I've been crying since I got back to work. This was just a really heavy visit.
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It's a good start for Mari. As for Maisy, lets hope the meds will clear him up completely. As for not seeing mites... in fact, rat mites almost always comes up negative on a scraping. But I agree with your vet that it's most likely self barbering due to stress.
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It's a good start for Mari. As for Maisy, lets hope the meds will clear him up completely. As for not seeing mites... in fact, rat mites almost always comes up negative on a scraping. But I agree with your vet that it's most likely self barbering due to stress.
I didn't know that. I've only had a mite problem once and they were visible, so we didn't need to do the scrape. I'm gonna go over all the other rats tonight and do another check for scabs, but I'm pretty sure Maisy is the only one with them. So I'm also leaning towards them not having mites.

It is a good start for Mari. I'm excited to have a plan now. The other vet was just counting on a "wait and see" approach. And I'm glad he's taking both of their issues seriously and that Maisy is on meds now as well.
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If you saw the buggies before, then they were lice. Mites can not be seen with the naked eye. They are far too small. That's why when I see scabs, I just treat them. And it's very normal for only one rat to have scabs... it just means they have a lower immune system, and are affected worse by the mites.
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If you saw the buggies before, then they were lice. Mites can not be seen with the naked eye. They are far too small. That's why when I see scabs, I just treat them. And it's very normal for only one rat to have scabs... it just means they have a lower immune system, and are affected worse by the mites.
Oh. Okay. That would make more sense then.


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